Hello and

I'm Francis Foster.

I'm Constantine Kissen.

And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

Our terrific guest today is a therapist and has been quite vocal on the woke stuff which is an

important part of the conversation.

Sir Chowler, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thank you very much guys, like so having me.

Listen, it's so great to have you.

You've been one of my absolute favorite people to listen to and follow on Twitter

over the last few weeks and

months but before we get into some of your views and how they've come to be

formed most of our followers won't know who you are so tell everybody who are you how are you where you are.

What has been the journey that lead you here because it's a very interesting one, isn't it?

So I grew up in Delhi.

I'm sick, so I'm from the sick community and it was yeah not not an easy place to grow

up necessarily there's a lot going on there there's a it's a patriarchal country and I grew up during a

rape crisis which was really difficult. And really frightening actually. It took a really long time even after I came to the UK to not be frightened all the time and not be frightened around men I'd say that was a really big one.

That is why we're doing this interview remotely.

Yes.

Excellent endorse. Yes. you know in a place where you felt in danger you come over here things you know you're trying to adjust to a new world

and what was that like before we get into into therapy and woke stuff and everything else?

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