Hello and this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people. Our brilliant guest today is the author of irreversible damage, the transgender craze that is seducing our daughters.

Abigail Schrei, welcome to Trigonometry.

Oh, thank you so much for having me on.

It is a great pleasure to have you on.

Francis and I both read your book.

I was going to say it was a great pleasure reading the book but I actually would say

it was a great horror reading the book because it's very difficult to read because you weave

the stories of individual people together with the scientific data together with the broader societal issues

But the personal stories particularly of families have been torn apart by this stuff

Are very difficult to read and very moving. And Francis and I have

been talking to people for a long time about this. We've had trans guests on the show to talk

about it. We've had people like Posey Parker on the show as well and we really when we dived into it was very

Sort of like why are people talking about this stuff like what's going on why is it important? We didn't really understand it. We didn't really know about it and I think your book brings to the four the real world impact

of politicizing this issue. So tell people who haven't yet read the book and I really

recommend everybody does. Why did you write this book?

Well I wrote this book because in the last decade there's been an explosion of

young women, teenage girls who suddenly identify as transgender, often with their friends, and

want hormones and surgeries and are easily obtaining them.

And the reason this is significant is we've had a, you know, something called gender dysphoria, which is the severe discomfort in one's biological sex.

That's something we've known about and had a 100 year diagnostic history of.

So we know what it looks like, and it doesn't look like this.

We've never we've never seen before young teenage girls. This was always something

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