Hello and

I'm Francis Foster. I'm Constantine Kisham.

And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

And it does not get better than the guest we have for you today.

He is a philosopher and author.

Professor Stephen Hicks, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thanks, Francis and Constantine, Welcome to Trigonon. Thank you. Thanks, Francis and Constantin.

Honored to be with you.

It is a great pleasure to have you here with us.

I have so many questions for you.

Francis has a ton as well, but I thought we'd start actually by telling you a little bit about our journey,

which is we're two comedians and about three years ago we started to feel something in the water.

There was something going on where we you know

Francis an old school lefty I'm somewhere in the center with a few

classically liberal views and we started to notice that the Overton window

for things you could joke about was shrinking.

Suddenly the idea that comedians are supposed to challenge the mainstream narrative was no longer

true somehow. You would be punished, you would be criticized for making jokes about things.

Identity became a huge part of our world and we started trigonometry to talk to people to try and understand what has happened and what is happening.

Can you explain to us what's been happening and why we've spent three years of our lives dealing with this?

What has been the transformation that has happened in our societies in the West?

I think there are a couple of human constants at work. One is you guys are comedians and all of us

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