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Pints with Jack: The C.S. Lewis Podcast

S9E12 – Abolition – Ch. 1, Pt. 3 ("The Abolition of Virtue")

Pints with Jack: The C.S. Lewis Podcast

David Bates, Matt Bush, and Andrew Lazo

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9671 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Andrew disappears after a couple of minutes, leaving David and Matt to wrap up the final part of Chapter 1...

[Show Notes]

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0:00.0

The head rules the belly through the chest, the seat, as analyst tells us, of magnanimity,

0:09.7

of emotions organized by trained habit into stable sentiments.

0:14.7

The chest, magnanimity, sentiment.

0:18.4

These are the indispensable liaison officers between cerebral man and visceral man.

0:23.6

This is Pints with Jack, season 9, episode 12. The Abolition of Man, Chapter 1, Men Without Chests.

0:32.6

Part 3, The Abolition of Virtue.

0:36.6

Have you been looking, everywhere searching for a place where you belong,

0:42.3

away from the masses among clinking glasses where the hear the hearth fire is on,

0:48.3

let the laughter welcome you in that eagle and child in, there's room at this this table to take a seat and tuck right in

0:58.8

Pints with Jack.

1:01.5

Pints with Jack.

1:08.4

Welcome friends to Pints with Jack.

1:10.4

Matt Bush here.

1:11.8

And over the past few weeks, we've been reading the Abolition of Man.

1:15.3

And today we are going to be wrapping up chapter one.

1:18.8

And of course I am joined by Father Andrew and David Bates, Sir Batesian himself.

1:28.2

Good morning, everyone.

1:29.6

Good morning, lovely to hear you all, and lovely to be with you all.

1:33.1

We're recording early in the morning before work for us, just schedules are shifting.

1:37.8

And so we just had an episode on Friday, and here we are Monday morning, doing it again.

1:42.6

But since then, David's had some interesting conversations, yeah.

1:47.0

Oh, yes, I had my interview with Dr. Paul Fiddis on Friends and Co-Inherence, talking

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