S9E11 – Abolition – Ch. 1, Pt. 2 ("Urban Blockheads & Trousered Apes")
Pints with Jack: The C.S. Lewis Podcast
David Bates, Matt Bush, and Andrew Lazo
4.9 • 671 Ratings
🗓️ 13 January 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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We move into the heart of Chapter 1 of The Abolition of Man and see why "The Green Book" fails to teach English and instead transforms its students in a different way...
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| 0:00.0 | But there is a third and a profounder reason for the procedure with which Gaius and Tishus adopt. |
| 0:09.6 | They may be perfectly ready to admit that a good education should build some sentiments while |
| 0:14.6 | destroying others. They may endeavor to do so, but it is impossible that they should succeed. Do what they will. It is the |
| 0:23.9 | debunking side of their work, and this site alone, which will really tell. This is Pints |
| 0:30.5 | with Jack, season 9, episode 11. The Abolition of Man, Chapter 1, Men Without Chests, Part 2, Urban Blockheads and Trousered Apes. |
| 0:44.5 | Have you been looking, everywhere searching for a place where you belong? |
| 0:49.8 | Away from the masses among clinking glasses where the hearth fire is on. |
| 0:55.0 | Let the laughter welcome you in that eagle and child din. |
| 1:01.0 | There's room at this table to take a seat and tuck right in for pints with Jack. |
| 1:08.0 | Pints with Jack. Pines with Jack. |
| 1:17.3 | Welcome friends to Pints with Jack. |
| 1:21.6 | Last week we began this season's main book, The Abolition of Man, |
| 1:27.0 | discussing a little bit about its background in the opening section of chapter one. And today we're going to progress a little |
| 1:29.1 | further through chapter one and then wrap it up next week. And I have to say, gentlemen, |
| 1:34.6 | this one was just packed with gold. I felt like the last one had great stuff, but it was |
| 1:38.6 | teeing it up. This one, just some bangers, some things right put in the comments, Savage from |
| 1:43.9 | C.S Lewis, had some |
| 1:45.5 | AI thoughts actually. So anyways, I'm looking forward to this. If they were AI, they weren't thoughts. |
| 1:53.2 | Jack would be so glad that you appreciated his savage bangers. I think he might have some thoughts about you handing over to AI, |
| 2:02.9 | but we'll talk more about that next season. I actually think this episode here, I have thoughts. |
| 2:07.4 | I think you're exactly right. They apply deeply to this AI world of handing over thinking to it. |
| 2:12.4 | So anyways, I'll make a little comment later. How's everyone doing? Well, I'm well. I'm back from my trip to |
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