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For full terms, visit the QVC website. I'm John Bachelor. I welcome Sophie McDowell, research associate at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy looking at a subject I had no knowledge of before Sophie and her colleague

Ahmed Sharari and Stefan Vedanovich write it up, which is the use of music to recruit bad actors,

specifically terror, but any bad actor, and music used in a way that you wouldn't recognize it

if you don't understand the language of the music.

Sophie, a very good evening to you. This has to do with the music that we call streaming,

where you can go on a channel like the, I think the most famous one is Spotify,

and listen to song after song, or call up what you want to to hear from somewhere. How is it that there

is said to be by as long ago as 2006 when Robert Biller was head of the FBI, that there can be

a message for recruitment in that? What does it look like, Sophie? Good evening to you.

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