I'm John Batchler, Canada, Mark Carney, the twice elected, once chosen, once elected, Prime Minister of Canada,

and Foreign Affairs. I welcome Conrad Black, distinguished biographer writing for the National Post

about Mark Carney's plans for foreign affairs, for trade, for defense, and for growth.

Conrad, a very good evening to you.

You quote in your piece the very famous and prominent McKenzie King, once Prime

Minister of all Canada, saying that the relationship between Canada and the United States

was one of overwhelming contiguity.

What does that mean and what does it mean today, Conrad? Good evening to you.

Good evening to you, John. Well, it meant it's an immense, close fact. I mean, that Canada was living right beside and all along a lengthy border with just a huge

imposing country, not an aggressive country, but a colossal presence, you say.

Because remember, not only is the Canadian population only about one-ninth of the U.S.,

but almost all of it is within 200 miles of the U.S. border, you know, crossing the border into the U.S.

except for New York and I guess the state of Washington, most of the border into the U.S., except for New York and I guess the state of Washington,

most of the border states are, well, I believe that Pennsylvania, but much of borders relatively

underpopulated.

And the, you know, a huge number of Americans live more than a thousand miles south of the

Canadian border. But it's not the same. All Canadians are living a thousand miles south of the Canadian border,

but it's not the same.

All Canadians are living right on the edge of the United States.

And it has a psychological impact.

And that is what Mr. King was referring to.

He spent many years in the U.S.

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