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This is Hotel Mars Episode N, my colleague and co-host and co-pilot, David Livingston, Dr. Space, the space show.

And we're looking to low Earth orbit and beyond for weapons, for planning, for the battlefield of

not the future right now. We welcome Rick Fisher, Senior Fellow for the International Assessment

and Strategy Center, is going to take us immediately to the Chinese space program and the space

station in orbit right now, Chiang.

And I read from a document that Rick has provided summarizing where the thinking is on that space station

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