S8 Ep839: STREAMING MAKING JBS, FEATURING REBECCA GRANT, CHARLES BURTON, SCOTT HAROLD, GORDON CHANG, 5-6-26.
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🗓️ 7 May 2026
⏱️ 40 minutes
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STREAMING MAKING JBS, FEATURING REBECCA GRANT, CHARLES BURTON, SCOTT HAROLD, GORDON CHANG, 5-6-26.
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This transcript captures a discussion from The John Bachelor Show featuring experts Gordon Chang, Rebecca Grant, and Charles Burton regarding global security and geopolitical rivalries. The initial segment highlights the US Navy'scritical role in maintaining stability within the Persian Gulf and the South China Sea, emphasizing its capability to counter Iranian aggression and signal strength to China. Shifting focus to technological competition, the panel critiques Bernie Sanders' proposal for AI collaboration with Beijing, arguing that such cooperation often leads to predatory technology transfers rather than mutual benefit. The participants cite historical examples of industrial espionage in Canada and the collapse of Nortel as warnings against trusting Chinese strategic intentions. Finally, the dialogue touches upon Japan’s evolving diplomatic and security presence in Southeast Asia and Australia, positioning it as a vital democratic partner in regional defense.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm I'm Good day to you. This is the making of the John Bachelor show. I'm joined by my very good colleagues, Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang and Rebecca Grant of the Lexington Institute, we turn immediately to the headlines we will begin immediately from the making of to the actual show |
| 0:56.6 | because we have the promise of resolution in the Middle East via remarks by Pakistan. |
| 1:07.0 | Caviate, caveat, caveat, fog of war, fog of diplomacy. |
| 1:11.2 | In any event, there is a moment here to consider the effectiveness of the conduct of the U.S. Navy these last days. |
| 1:20.0 | Very good morning to both of you. |
| 1:21.8 | I will begin immediately with my digital wonderland here that sometimes works for me, |
| 1:28.9 | mumble to myself. |
| 1:31.0 | Thank you, Rebecca, for joining us. |
| 1:32.6 | Five, four, three. |
| 1:39.5 | And there. |
| 1:41.4 | Two, China is the target of all of our remarks, but Pakistan is our surrogate representative of China. |
| 1:50.0 | I remind everyone listening that as of 24 hours ago, the foreign minister of Iran was meeting with Wang Yi, the foreign minister of the People's Republic of China. |
| 2:00.5 | We can presume that Beijing is fully informed of what we're about to learn about |
| 2:04.8 | a resolution in the Middle East. |
| 2:07.3 | Nonetheless, we go to what we can count on, which is Rebecca Grant's assessment of the U.S. Navy. |
| 2:14.4 | One. |
| 2:15.6 | I'm John Batchelor, and I welcome Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang to help me understand |
| 2:21.4 | the conduct of the U.S. and its allies these last days in the standoff in the Persian Gulf, |
| 2:28.9 | especially the Straits of Hormuz. The world waits for resolution because the price of gasoline, of refined products, |
| 2:37.7 | of aviation fuel is under a 30-day window to what is called a tipping point in Wall Street. |
| 2:45.3 | That's a euphemism for trouble. And we're in that window now, and so therefore any resolution is welcome. In the meantime, |
| 2:53.7 | it's time to assess how we're doing so far. And good morning to you, Gordon, and good morning, |
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