I'm John Batchler, post-liberalism.

Recently, Victor Orban was famously defeated in Hungary,

looking to extend his 16-year supremacy as the premier of the country along the Danube.

The reason I point to that in a new essay from Thomas Howes,

editor-in-chief of the Vital Center, also founder of

Reagan Caucus and Reagan-Cogus Action, an lecture in politics at Princeton University, is that

it turns out, Victor Orban wasn't a Hungarian premier looting over an economy that was staggering

along. He was a post-liberal, and he was inviting post-liberals

to his celebration of his lengthy supremacy. What is a post-liberal? I said, I didn't want to go,

because it's very far, but if I'd known that post-liberals that were there, I would have

known what they were. Thomas, a very good evening to you, writing for the

Civitas Outlook at the University of Texas at Austin. You identify not only post-liberals,

but the fact that they've failed, it helps a deal that you've got a new book with your colleague

James Patterson coming this spring titled Why Post-Liberalism Failed. I need to know what it is before it fails

in front of me. What is it, Thomas? Good evening to you. Oh, hi. Good evening as well. Hi,

John. Thank you for having me on. Post-liberalism? Well, the post-liberalism that we address in the book

is a specific type of post-liberalism that we address in the book is a specific type of post-liberalism.

There was a Protestant variety that was a theological school of thought in starting in 1990s.

That has very little to do with what we're concerned with.

We're concerned with a faction with among Catholics, specifically,

that is more radical and more politically involved than the previous iterations of that people

who called themselves by that term, at least. The main players in that are Patrick Deneeneen of Notre Dame,

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