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S8 Ep781: 4. Jonathan Schanzer analyzes historic direct talks between Israel and Lebanon regarding border disputes. The Lebanese government seeks peace, but the survival of Hezbollah remains a major obstacle. Schanzer argues that true stability requires the full dE

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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4. Jonathan Schanzer analyzes historic direct talks between Israel and Lebanon regarding border disputes. The Lebanese government seeks peace, but the survival of Hezbollah remains a major obstacle. Schanzer argues that true stability requires the full dismantlement of the Iranian-backed group through military or diplomatic means. 4
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel, John Batchel, the executive director of Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

0:20.9

At some point in these last days, Iran mentioned that Hezbollah was part of their equation

0:27.8

for ceasefire and for accommodation, peacemaking in another universe.

0:34.9

The Hezbollah is adamant in reawakening and re-arming and reorganizing and peppering

0:40.7

the northern border of Israel so that there is no peace and can be no peace, unless the negotiations

0:47.8

between Israel and Lebanon that started several days ago are, to my knowledge, unprecedented.

0:54.0

They will continue Thursday at the U.S. State Department.

0:57.3

But, Hezbollah was not part of the original ceasefire

1:01.8

in the opinion of Jerusalem and Washington.

1:06.3

Iran is looking to support its chief surrogate outside.

1:13.1

What are the prospects for these negotiations,

1:19.3

Jonathan? Are we watching people make history and not make peace? Or are we watching something entirely new? Well, I think it is all playing out in real time, John. I think on the one hand,

1:25.6

this is already historic. It's not quite peace,

1:28.3

but I mean, we do get a sense that the Lebanese government is interested in negotiating a number of

1:33.7

things. One, I think they'd like to have a mutually agreed upon border that would solve for the

1:38.4

problem of Hezbollah. Hasbalah has always said that there are a couple of parcels of land that

1:43.2

still belong to Lebanon.

1:44.7

These are, of course, disputed territories.

1:46.6

I don't believe that history or topography or geography have actually redounded to their benefit in the end.

1:54.0

But they have claimed that there are certain territories that they belong in Lebanon.

1:59.5

The Israelis and the Lebanese government are starting to talk about the so-called blue line

2:03.7

and to formalize it and to end the conflict over that border.

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