S8 Ep781: 5. Mary Kissel critiques the State Department's bureaucratic inefficiency while managing multiple global crises. She discusses the unconventional diplomacy of Jared Kushner and JD Vance. Kissel warns that the Iran conflict is complex and may require month
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 22 April 2026
⏱️ 12 minutes
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| 0:47.0 | I welcome Mary Kistel, Executive Vice President Stevens, Incorporated, former senior advisor |
| 0:51.5 | to the Secretary of State, and it's the Mary's State Department |
| 0:54.7 | time in the plane that I need to call upon, because the State Department is at the center |
| 1:01.3 | of several, many negotiations underway right now as we speak. Mary, a very good evening to you, |
| 1:08.2 | the State Department. All roads lead to, notably the historic occasion of Lebanon negotiating directly with Israel about Hezbollah and the armed camp that is southern Lebanon for many decades. |
| 1:23.0 | Notably that the vice president is en route to Islamabad, we're told for negotiations with Iran about |
| 1:30.3 | whether the ceasefire is extended or ends within hours. We're told the State Department |
| 1:35.9 | watching that matter because of the price of a barrel of oil for other reasons. And we're |
| 1:41.9 | also told that Ukraine, not above the fold of the New York Times for some |
| 1:46.8 | days now, is very concerned about all the policy going towards the Middle East while the Russian |
| 1:53.7 | aggression continues unsolved. And while Ukraine is waiting for the loan that is said to be coming from |
| 2:00.2 | the EU, when and if they |
| 2:01.8 | raise the money. That's enough. I could go on, but that's enough to say. The State Department |
| 2:06.3 | is at the center of all of these. Oh, one more. South Korea, the President Yi, is a man who has |
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