This is John Batchel, a conversation with Foundation for the Defense of Democracy,

Sinan Chidi, about Turkey. In the Iran War, it stands to reshape the region around its power.

And inside Turkey, you have the very powerful, long in power almost all of this century.

Reship Erdogan, the prime minister.

But in addition, the foreign minister is a man to watch, Hakan Fidon.

He is a hawk's hawk, and he's looking for advantages following whatever is the resolution

of the Iran war.

Here, Sinan profiles Fidon and what he wants in meeting

with Ukraine, with Syria, with players in the region. Turkey is clearly identifying itself as the

next power of Asia Minor, challenging the U.S., challenging Russia, especially challenging

Israel. More of this later.

Well, I would say, look, he's largely echoing the sentiments of Aardowan.

This doesn't really position Harkand Fidon ahead.

I think it actually, you know, Turkey is trying to position itself as this sort of

sane, mediating power, the conscience of the Middle East, the conscience of the world, suggesting,

look, you know, were the advocates for the Palestinians, where advocates for like, you know,

ending hostilities in Iran, Israel, the U.S. war. But here's how Turkey weakens itself and

compromised itself.

It is not an impartial actor, right?

Turkey is deep in the pockets and deep in its support of a major designated terrorist

organization, which is Hamas, and potentially now Hezbollah.

We just saw U.S. sanctions issued against Turkish entities that were facilitating supplies going to Hezbollah

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