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Today. I'm John Bachelor. Gordon Chang, at Gordon G. Chang, my colleague and co-host, and we're very pleased to be welcoming our colleague, Peter Husey,

president of geostrategic analysis,

fellow at the National Institute for Deterrence Studies,

and also a senior fellow at the Gold Institute for International Diplomacy.

Peter, an anecdote told on air by Jim Acosta,

the reporter in Washington, associated with, what you'd have to say, sharp criticism of the first Trump administration, now continue in the second.

The anecdote involves another journalist at the White House, I believe. I heard it. Didn't write it down. And I don't mean to tell this story as if this happened. But it's a, I heard this story that at the White House, a journalist talking to an official in the

White House after the president had challenged Iran do this or else. and there were lots of attachments to that,

but that was enough of a challenge. The matter of nuclear weapons came up, and the understanding

by the journalist telling it to Acosta, so this is at least secondhand, maybe third hand,

is that the administration's official said they're

not off the table. I pause at this only because for some time now, I've puzzled in our conversations,

if the younger people, by that I mean the Gen Xers now in control in Washington and the millennials

moving into deputy positions to those Gen Xers, in control in Washington, and the millennials moving into deputy positions to those

gen Xers, I'm a boomer, I'm out of this. Whether they are fully informed about what a nuclear

weapon represents on the battlefield, how use of a nuclear weapon in anger has only been done twice and the results are appalling to this day.

What is the education of combatants and decision makers in Washington about what a nuclear weapon

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