S8 Ep731: 5. Plokhy compares the 2014 annexation of Crimea to the 1930s policy of appeasement, criticizing the West’s inadequate response. He discusses the Minsk agreements as a Russian tool to destabilize Ukraine and explains how NATO’s fear of escalation allowed
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🗓️ 12 April 2026
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5. Plokhy compares the 2014 annexation of Crimea to the 1930s policy of appeasement, criticizing the West’s inadequate response. He discusses the Minsk agreements as a Russiantool to destabilize Ukraine and explains how NATO’s fear of escalation allowed Putin to solidify control over Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. (5)
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World with John Batchelor. Here's John Batchelor. |
| 0:12.3 | This is CBS, I on the World. I'm John Batchelor, Ukraine conflict. It is February 23rd, 24th, 2014 at the Kremlin. A meeting that lasts all night |
| 0:25.4 | involves the heads of state security, the GRU, the SVR, the SVR, the FSB, plus the National |
| 0:32.2 | Security Council, plus Vladimir Putin. And the decision that night is to annex and tear apart Ukraine. |
| 0:40.9 | This scene is representative of the decisions made at the Kremlin without any permission of anyone |
| 0:49.9 | outside, like a democracy or a parliament or representatives of government or people of the world, |
| 0:57.2 | made unilaterally by Vladimir Putin and his state security chiefs, remembering always that |
| 1:03.5 | Vladimir Putin's training is that of a Czechist, a member of the FSB, a secret policeman. |
| 1:15.1 | This scene riveting is in a new book, |
| 1:21.6 | The Russo-Ukrainian War, The Return of History, by Professor Serhi Ploki. He is a professor of Ukrainian history and director of the Ukrainian Research Institute at Harvard University. |
| 1:26.9 | This book written between March of 2022, the month after the invasion, and February of |
| 1:34.6 | 2023, the war is ongoing. |
| 1:36.8 | It's more than 500 days, but the roots of it are critical to understand if we have the |
| 1:42.3 | future. |
| 1:42.7 | The professor reminds us that an historian is the worst |
| 1:45.9 | possible interpreter of current events except for everyone else. Professor, I greet you. Thank you very |
| 1:52.7 | much. What in that meeting illustrates a theme that runs through your book? This is a combination |
| 1:59.8 | events that are in contest, a war of |
| 2:03.0 | national liberation, Ukraine, and imperial disintegration, Soviet Russian Federation. Good evening to you. |
| 2:11.5 | Good evening, and thanks for having me on the show. It's a pleasure to be back. |
| 2:22.1 | What happened on the night of February 23rd, 2014, |
| 2:28.0 | certainly demonstrates very clearly that Russia today, |
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