I'm John Batcher. Bob Zimmerman is here. He keeps the website behind the black,

the commercial emphasizing behind the black, the commercial

emphasizing behind the black. And we have some dollars and cents here to talk about how big space

does things and how SpaceX does things or Blue Origin or any of the commercial startups.

ESA and Arianas space costing what for Arianus, and what did they get for it, Bob?

All right, so they had a recent launch, and the European Space Agency, through some of his documents,

disclosed that it essentially paid for that Ariana Six launch $96 million.

$96 million for a launch is kind of comparable to what one pays for

Falcon 9 rocket. So it sounds like they're competitive. The problem is that SpaceX Falcon 9

Rocket is setting a price with a much greater profit margin because it's reusable. So they can really

lower their price significantly.

What they do is they set their price below, but not too far below, their competitor.

So they can make as much money as possible.

It's pure profit motive and it makes sense.

And so Ariana 6 and ESA's got a rocket that kind of can compete, but not really.

As more than reusable rockets

come into line in the next year or so, launch prices are going to then drop because

SpaceX is going to have to compete with those reusable rockets. And at that point, the

Arianus 6 will find itself very overpriced and no way to lower its cost because it's expendable.

It can't be reused.

I thought they discontinued Iran at 6. No, no. They've got it. They built it. It's ready.

They have a big contract with Amazon, Leo, to launch 18 times. And some European government launches

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