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S8 Ep707: PREVIEW FOR LATER (1) HEADLINE: The Five Men Ruling the Iranian State (2) GUEST: Jonathan Schanzer (3) SUMMARY: Jonathan Schanzer identifies five key figures ruling Iran while the Ayatollah is reportedly incapacitated. These leaders, including Mohammad Ba

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🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW FOR LATER (1)
HEADLINE: The Five Men Ruling the Iranian State (2)
GUEST: Jonathan Schanzer (3)
SUMMARY: Jonathan Schanzeridentifies five key figures ruling Iranwhile the Ayatollah is reportedly incapacitated. These leaders, including Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and Ahmad Vahidi, manage various military, intelligence, and repressive operations against protestors and foreign targets. (4)

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0:00.0

This is John Batchel. Conversation with my colleague Jonathan Schanzer, Executive Director of Foundation for Defense of Democracies, answering the question, who is running the Iranian state within a state, the IRGC? The Ayatollah is not available, either ill or dying. So what we have here is unknown names.

0:22.5

Jonathan names them.

0:23.9

I especially pay attention to Vahiti,

0:26.6

the man in charge of the mass murder of young people throughout Iran,

0:32.3

these last months and these last years.

0:35.3

Also linked to the bombing in Argentina in the 20th century, Vahidi.

0:42.0

Here's the list of five, believed to be ruling Iran, iron-fisted, five men, martyrs in their own

0:52.8

imaginations.

0:54.3

More tonight.

0:56.3

We have five names, and I have my colleague, Jonathan Sia, from FDD along with Samuel Ben,

1:03.1

or both of them, research analysts at our shop.

1:06.5

They've identified five people that they say are running the country, and I believe that

1:11.7

they are correct.

1:12.3

I do believe that Mostabakhamini is likely in a coma.

1:15.8

That's what we continue to hear, that he's not functioning, and that he's not making

1:19.8

decisions.

1:20.4

There have been some AI videos that try to portray him as being part of the leadership

1:25.6

command.

1:26.4

I think that those are fake news, as we say.

1:30.4

But so for the moment right now, we are looking at the following figures. One is Parliament Speaker

1:35.1

Mohamed Ghalibaf. He's former IRGC. He's worked with a lot of the Palestinian groups, and he is

1:42.4

apparently leading talks with the United States

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