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S8 Ep704: 4. Divergent U.S. and Israeli Strategies in the Middle East Guest: David Daoud and Bill Roggio Summary: Guests contrast U.S.-led war aims in Iran with Israel’s independent operations in Lebanon. They explore if Israel’s strikes on petrochemical facilities

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🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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4. Divergent U.S. and IsraeliStrategies in the Middle East Guest:David Daoud and Bill RoggioSummary: Guests contrast U.S.-led war aims in Iran with Israel’s independent operations in Lebanon. They explore if Israel’s strikes on petrochemical facilities are coordinated with Washington or represent a tactical good cop/bad copdiplomatic strategy.,, (4)

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David Dayud for reporting on Hizbalah and Lebanon,

0:55.7

but at the same time the suggestion that Israel is fighting a two-front war now, chiefly.

1:01.6

In Iran, air war, and special forces, perhaps,

1:06.8

and in Lebanon on the ground, in the the air and dealing with intelligence gathering.

1:12.3

David, can we say what the war aims are in Jerusalem now with these two front wars?

1:16.7

Do they have a war aim in Iran and a war aim in Lebanon that can be achieved and then weapons down?

1:26.7

Look, I think, you know, these two fronts obviously share some symbiosis, but they're

1:32.9

obviously two distinct fronts. And I think on the Iranian front, ultimately, the, the, you know,

1:43.0

I want to say the absolute maximum limit will be dictated by the United States, but basically kind of a flexible upper limit will be dictated by U.S. goals and U.S. patients for continuing the fight.

1:58.3

Whenever the United States says it's done, right, the United States, I think, will

2:03.0

ultimately set the war aims in Lebanon, or sorry, in Iran. And it seems like we have walked

2:10.1

back the pursuit of actual regime change that seemed to be the, you know, for better or for worse,

2:17.1

we've done that. That seemed to be the goal know for better for worse we've done that that seemed to be

2:18.1

the uh the the goal that was stated at the outset uh president trump is basically saying regime

2:24.7

change has been accomplished right even though the regime has not changed it's only its its senior most

2:29.7

figures uh have been taken and out and there's been a change of the guard within the context of the current regime.

2:38.5

But that to me suggests that we're taking, like regime change is taken off the table.

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