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S8 Ep673: 2. Judy Dempsey analyzes strained transatlantic relations following President Trump’s remarks on energy independence. She also highlights the significance of Hungary's upcoming election for regional populist movements and the EuropeanUnion’s future. With

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🗓️ 1 April 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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2. Judy Dempsey analyzes strained transatlantic relations following President Trump’s remarks on energy independence. She also highlights the significance of Hungary's upcoming election for regional populist movements and the EuropeanUnion’s future. With colleague Thaddeus McCotter. (2)

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I'm John Batchel with Thetty's MacConnor American Greatness,

1:03.1

and we're lucky to have a conversation with Judy Dempsey in the midst of all this friction and war fighting.

1:05.7

She's at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Berlin.

1:09.8

And we're responding first to the German politics of declaring America out and turning

1:16.2

towards Russia.

1:17.6

But there are other tensions in Europe that are not going to be strengthened, the people

1:24.7

resisting the tensions are not going to be strengthened by this headline in the

1:27.8

F.T, which I know Judy has read because she's a veteran the FD.

1:31.4

Trump tells allies, including UK, to go get your own oil.

1:36.5

The quote continues, won't be there to help you anymore, the President warns,

1:41.4

certainly not meant to please a number of people in the European capitals.

1:46.3

I mentioned U.S. U.S. U.K., for example, gets his own headline.

1:50.9

Cracks appear in U.S. U.S. U.S. U.K. security cooperation after Trump's stormer tensions, U.S.

1:55.9

presses, U.K., and allies to ensure to secure a quantum computing supply. Very strange contest between London and

2:04.3

Washington, but I mention also in the south of France, it was true that the price of diesel for the

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