I'm John Batchew with my good friend and colleagues, Thaddeus McCutter, and we're enjoying a conversation with Judy Dempsey,

and we've not talked to since the beginning of the war,

but there was a vote, and we marched to the sound of voting.

Judy, the Palatinate.

I read that the Palatinate turned very much towards the CDU

and away from the SPD, the coalition that rules the Bundestag, but the

significant number was AFD doing well in the palatinate? What does that mean?

Well, it means that the AFD certainly is making inroads into a very important West German state. The Palatinate Rhineland

Fals in German, it's small, wine-producing state, prosperous, used to be Social Democrat,

but the CDU under the rather very calm leader, Gordon Schneider, he persuaded the voters to actually leave the SPD and vote for them, while at the same time, so many actually voters of the free Democrats and the CDU and the SPD went to the AFD, now the second largest party in this land.

It's very, very bad news for the German political landscape.

Because any time the far-right IFD wins, it gives them a boost.

They win more supporters.

They feel, yes, they can actually gain more support.

So we are now into another spate of elections over the next couple of months in Eastern Germany,

where the AFD no doubt is expected to do very well.

Bad news generally for the established political parties, particularly the Social Democrats.

That is, you have a question for Judy.

Yes, Judy, you'd mentioned some of the economic problems facing Germany.

This must play into the hands of the AFD, doesn't it?

Yes.

I suppose the migration does certainly, in playing to the hands of the AFD,

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