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S8 Ep636: 11. European Energy Realism and the Ukraine Conflict Guest: Gregory Copley Gregory Copley analyzes the shift in European politics toward pragmatism regarding Russian energy. High energy costs are forcing a rejection of "farcical" climate change ideologies

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🗓️ 25 March 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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11. European Energy Realism and the Ukraine Conflict Guest: Gregory Copley Gregory Copley analyzes the shift in European politics toward pragmatism regarding Russianenergy. High energy costs are forcing a rejection of "farcical" climate change ideologies in favor of nuclear and fossil fuels. Additionally, support for Ukraine is waning as nations prioritize economic survival and access to Central Asian markets. (11)
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0:00.0

I'm John Batcher. Gregory Copply is here, and we're looking at the crisis in the

0:20.1

Strait of Formuz and in the Middle East during the conflict zone from Lebanon to Iran.

0:29.0

However, Europe is watching.

0:31.2

It doesn't have a warship in the mix right now, but it is watching.

0:35.2

And why is because of the politics of Europe are extremely complex, extremely so.

0:42.3

I can't summarize them.

0:43.9

I can say there was a vote in Germany, a local state of vote, the palatinate,

0:49.6

a beautiful part of Germany, I'm told, very conservative.

0:53.6

It voted for the CDU. That's the majority

0:56.8

party in parliament in their Bundestag right now, the party of the Chancellor Merit, and took

1:03.2

votes away from the SPD, the socialists. However, those votes did not all go to the CDU. They also

1:09.7

went to the AFD. I'm mentioning this because the AFT is the other kind of political party. It's populists. It's anti-NATO. It's anti-U.N. It's anti-U.N. It's anti-U.S. It's anti-immigrant. The only thing these last years it's indicated is that it's pro-Russia or might be. Now, it's representative of other populist parties throughout Europe.

1:31.1

I don't summarize them.

1:32.3

I'm just mentioning that they've set out the Gulf conflict.

1:38.0

And I do not believe the populace are ready to get in.

1:40.7

When we take power, we're sending a worship.

1:42.5

I do not believe it.

1:43.4

So Europe right now is in the hands of men and women who participate in some fashion in Ukraine, but

1:49.6

won't participate in the Middle East. Despite the obvious fact that Middle Eastern oil and

1:54.7

Middle Eastern natural gas are critical to sustaining the populations in Europe, they will

2:00.6

sustain the vote for the men and

2:03.5

women in charge. Gregory, have I made it the formula straightforward enough? It's not a straightforward

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