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S8 Ep636: 10. Planning for Regime Change in Tehran Guest: Gregory Copley Gregory Copley criticizes Washington’s lack of a long-term strategic plan for Iran. The Trump administration now weighs regime change versus tactical military operations like seizing Kharg Isl

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🗓️ 25 March 2026

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10. Planning for Regime Change in Tehran Guest: Gregory CopleyGregory Copley criticizes Washington’s lack of a long-term strategic plan for Iran. The Trump administration now weighs regime change versus tactical military operations like seizing Kharg Island. Copley suggests a provisional government under Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi could be established in occupied litorals to encourage Iranian military defections. (10)

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0:00.0

I'm John Batsy with Gregory Copley, Defense and Foreign Affairs, my colleague and friend and mentor,

0:21.5

and we're looking at the contests in the Gulf from the point of view of three interested parties,

0:28.3

Tehran, Washington, and Europe. Washington, Gregory, defeat the plan, don't defeat the man.

0:35.2

What does Washington hope to achieve, given the standoff right now

0:39.4

the Strait of Formoos, with news that Special Operations Joint Task Force may be headed into the region?

0:46.7

Well, I think it shows a lack of longer-term and broader strategic vision in planning this war in the

0:53.0

first place. I don't think there was a plan B really ready and on the table in the event that the clerics

1:01.0

did not fold completely and abandon government.

1:04.8

Now the Trump administration has to push for what they've been saying they weren't pushing

1:10.2

for, which is regime

1:11.4

change in Tehran and Qom. So that changes the dimension. It introduces an element of uncertainty

1:20.4

which must also worry Tehran. President Trump has consistently said how well the United States and Israeli forces have been doing in the execution of military operations.

1:34.0

And it's clearly proven that the United States is the unparalleled sole superpower in the world at this stage.

1:43.1

And that's a very significant thing. But the Iranians also

1:47.0

proved that they can outlast even that administration if that administration isn't prepared to go

1:52.7

and do what's necessary to remove the clerics. So with President Trump's comments about how

1:59.8

successful things are going, it's like saying,

2:02.3

well, the operation has been a success, but unfortunately the patient died.

2:07.0

Now President Trump's got to go back in and say, well, the operation is not yet over.

2:11.7

And yeah, we do have other plans, which he may have considered it before, but now are coming into play seriously with the movement

2:20.7

of a Joint Special Operations Task Force into the region, which is going to be a substantial

2:27.4

task force and multi-service.

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