S8 Ep567: 7. Guest Kevin Frazier addresses state-level AI regulation, warning against shortsighted laws that limit human agency. He advocates for transparency and consumer choice over "regulatory capture" that mirrors historical over-litigation in other industries.
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🗓️ 11 March 2026
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7. Guest Kevin Frazier addresses state-level AI regulation, warning against shortsighted laws that limit human agency. He advocates for transparencyand consumer choice over "regulatory capture" that mirrors historical over-litigation in other industries. (7)
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel. I welcome my good colleague, Kevin Fraser, writing at Civitas Outlook. Kevin's at the |
| 0:21.5 | University of Texas Law School. He is a researcher and advocate for the future. The future is |
| 0:29.5 | artificial intelligence. However, that is not a uniformly understood of where we are right now. The science fiction way to explain what |
| 0:40.9 | we're about to endeavor is that the future is already here. It's just not evenly distributed. |
| 0:46.5 | Okay, we wait. But right now, Peter, in a most recent article, has identified the weakness in the |
| 0:53.4 | decision chain, and that is the state |
| 0:55.5 | legislatures. Not even the federal government yet. State legislatures are moving very quickly |
| 1:01.0 | to either to take advantage of AI's skill set or to extract money from it. I can't tell whether |
| 1:08.1 | they're rent-seeking or just Mother May I. Kevin, a very good |
| 1:12.4 | evening to you. This is a disappointment only to those of us who spend a lot of time with AI. |
| 1:17.8 | They're worried about it in some profound way. You've written several articles to calm the spirits |
| 1:23.4 | of our tax and spenders, but they're not listening. Is that what you understand, Kevin? Good evening to you. |
| 1:30.6 | John, thanks you for having me. As always, it's a pleasure to join you, and I love talking about |
| 1:35.3 | the future with you. I think state legislators are very well-intentioned. They recognize that |
| 1:42.0 | their constituents are concerned about what we're going to see in this future that you and I are big advocates for. |
| 1:49.2 | And I think the problem is that we haven't had a clear narrative as to what that future may actually look like. |
| 1:55.9 | And so instead, the picture of the future that many Americans think of when they think about an AI future |
| 2:01.2 | is fewer jobs, is more misinformation, is less of a meaningful relationship with their kids, |
| 2:08.8 | and so on and so forth. |
| 2:09.9 | And this is all unsurprising because those are the articles that make the headlines. |
| 2:14.4 | These are the articles that the New York Times runs. |
| 2:17.4 | And so when folks think |
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