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S8 Ep512: Jonathan Schanzer, Executive Director of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, discusses the massive US armada near Iran and whether military pressure or internal protests can force the regime to negotiate on missiles and proxies. 7.

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 24 February 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Jonathan Schanzer, Executive Director of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, discusses the massive USarmada near Iran and whether military pressure or internal protests can force the regime to negotiate on missiles and proxies. 7.
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchler. It's a pleasure to welcome Jonathan Shanzer, my colleague. He is the executive director

0:21.2

of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy. I recommend the FD's website to stay very much up to date

0:29.0

on the changing situation with regard the Islamic Republic of Iran and other conflicts. But right now,

0:36.0

dominating the story is the American War Fleet, now joined by the largest

0:41.1

carrier in the solar system, the Gerald Ford, along with the U.S. Air Force array of warplanes

0:46.9

around Iran and what is to be done.

0:50.0

Jonathan, a very good evening to you.

0:51.5

Thank you.

0:52.0

The puzzle for Europe on the F.T.

0:55.5

And the puzzle for Washington is the fleet's there. The leverage is apparent. And the Mullahs are

1:03.6

choosing not to talk about surrender, but to talk about negotiations over the suspect nuclear

1:10.5

weapons program, not to talk about the arsenal of ballistic missiles, not to talk about negotiations over the suspect nuclear weapons program, not to talk about the

1:12.8

arsenal of ballistic missiles, not to talk about the predation towards its own citizenry.

1:18.4

I've heard the number 40,000 used, not to talk about the embellishment of all statements

1:25.1

that come out of negotiation. That is, you can't trust them apparently.

1:30.0

There's always an if.

1:31.0

This is bizarre.

1:32.8

And not to mention the Hamas, the Hezbollah, and the other bad actors that are enlivened

1:39.6

and paid for by Iran.

1:41.7

None of that is on the table, just the suspect nuclear weapons program.

1:45.4

So what is the leverage, Jonathan? Where is the leverage if the mullas are having it their way?

1:51.4

Good evening to you. Good evening, John. Well, I mean, I think the leverage remains that massive

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