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S8 Ep387: Guest: Anatol Lieven. Lieven of the Quincy Institute discusses breaking news that Vladimir Putin has agreed to a one-week ceasefire on Ukrainian cities following a request from Donald Trump. Lieven views this as a significant positive signal of Putin's de

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🗓️ 30 January 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Guest: Anatol Lieven. Lieven of the Quincy Institute discusses breaking news that Vladimir Putin has agreed to a one-week ceasefire on Ukrainian cities following a request from Donald Trump. Lieven views this as a significant positive signal of Putin's desire to maintain good standing with the incoming administration, though he notes that major territorial disagreements remain unresolved.
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchler. I welcome Anatole Levin of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft

0:21.3

to explain the negotiations between three capitals, Washington, Moscow, and Keefe over the Ukraine tragedy.

0:30.9

Complicated by announcements in these last hours from the two presidents, Mr. Putin and Mr. Trump,

0:37.3

I read the headline that we have.

0:40.0

Putin, quote, agrees ceasefire over Ukrainian cities, end quote. That's the telegraph. This is London.

0:47.7

Whereas Russian president will stop all attacks for a week, says the president of the United States,

0:53.3

Donald Trump. Not the same

0:55.0

statement, but Anatole, your excellent piece about the negotiation doesn't remove the

1:03.0

possibility right now of war being continued. And over these last 24 hours, there was the implied threat from Moscow.

1:14.2

There would be a new, very large barrage against Ukrainian cities, especially the infrastructure.

1:20.9

Everybody's suffering with the cold and the lack of electricity.

1:24.4

Now we get an announcement from both Washington, the cabinet meeting, and from the Kremlin,

1:30.6

where it's eight hours later, that there will be a ceasefire in Keef and certain various cities.

1:37.8

How do you interpret all of this?

1:40.2

Because your article, which we'll now explore, illustrates that there is a positive intention to

1:47.2

settle this at the negotiating table. Is that what we're hearing? Good evening to you.

1:52.4

Hello, John. Well, so far we've only heard this from Trump, not from Putin. But it's

2:00.6

certainly a very positive sign because putting pressure on Ukraine

2:07.2

by attacking Ukrainian power infrastructure in Ukrainian cities has been a key part of Russia's strategy.

2:16.8

Now, they're only suspending it for a week, but still,

2:20.6

you know, it's a good sign. Perhaps it can be extended. Of course, the Russians will expect that

2:26.3

during that time the Ukrainians will not attack Russian energy infrastructure. So let's hope that

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