S8 Ep382: Gregory Copley recounts King Charles correcting President Trump on protocol, with the President accepting the royal guidance—a notable moment of deference during the state interactions between the two leaders.
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🗓️ 28 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my good colleague Gregory Copley, Defense and Foreign Affairs. |
| 0:20.7 | Noble State is his new book. |
| 0:22.0 | It's about the merits of constitutional monarchy, and we just saw one in action. You didn't |
| 0:26.9 | notice it right away because it went so smoothly. The President of the United States, who is both |
| 0:33.0 | head of state and head of government, made a remark that was patently absurd and false and hurtful. |
| 0:41.0 | He implied, no, he stated that the British troops were shy. |
| 0:46.8 | That's the old-fashioned word. I'll use it. Shy in Afghanistan. |
| 0:51.2 | And he didn't control the remark at all. |
| 0:57.3 | The king heard this, eventually heard it formally, and conveyed to the President of the United States that it was an unacceptable |
| 1:04.8 | remark. Within moments, the President of the United States took it back and reversed himself. Gregory, no better |
| 1:14.0 | illustration of your book could possibly exist. Well, in fact, the reality was that the government |
| 1:21.2 | of the United Kingdom under Prime Minister Stama was not in a position to exert any pressure on |
| 1:27.0 | President Trump. And so it fell to exert any pressure on President Trump. |
| 1:28.7 | And so it fell to the head of state of the United Kingdom, |
| 1:33.5 | King Charles, to make that contact directly with President Trump, as you described. |
| 1:39.8 | What was worse, though, was that President Trump didn't just make that allegation |
| 1:43.5 | about the British troops in Afghanistan. |
| 1:47.8 | He made the comment about all allied troops in Afghanistan being essentially not taking a full role in the fighting. |
| 1:58.0 | Well, so a lot of the European states took umbrage at that. Some of them, |
| 2:02.6 | in fact, did not perform well in Afghanistan because of their disorganization rather than, |
| 2:07.3 | if you like a lack of commitment. Some of the smaller states there, like Estonia, performed |
| 2:12.1 | extremely courageously. But Canada, Australia, New Zealand, put in troops who were constantly at the front line |
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