S8 Ep350: SEGMENT 7: CHAGOS ISLANDS GIVEAWAY TO CHINESE INFLUENCE Guest: Jim Fanell Fanell criticizes the decision to transfer Chagos Islands sovereignty, warning it opens doors to Chinese influence near the strategic Diego Garcia base. Discussion examines the geop
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 11 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my friend and colleague Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang is my co-host, |
| 0:21.3 | and we welcome the author of Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Mistake. |
| 0:27.8 | That is Captain Jim Fennell, the United States Navy retired intelligence officer, |
| 0:32.9 | with a special detail to offer us of the Far East, now called East Asia. |
| 0:39.0 | He wrote the book with his colleague Brad Thayer. Captain, Jim, a very good day to you. Gordon and I are watching the scene |
| 0:46.1 | in Switzerland as the president gathers around him eager ears to hear his policies with regard to |
| 0:54.0 | Greenland, the Board of Peace, Tehran, |
| 0:57.2 | but especially we're listening for his policies on Asia and China in particular, though |
| 1:03.1 | there is a snap election in Japan that will be determinative. So I come to you for your |
| 1:08.7 | understanding of what the Trump administration's China policy, |
| 1:12.4 | China thinking is now in this year of suspend the tariffs and we'll work it out. |
| 1:18.1 | I believe the president is scheduled to meet with Xi Jinping four times in these next months. |
| 1:23.4 | Good day to you, Jim. |
| 1:25.2 | Good day, John and Gordon. |
| 1:27.4 | And yeah, the events that are going to happen about 65 kilometers from where I live has got the world's attention right now, especially since his plane was delayed. |
| 1:36.1 | So I'll just say that my, if I could use a phrase to characterize the Trump policy towards China in the Far East would be speaks awfully but carry a |
| 1:46.1 | loud stick. And he has, in many ways, as I think Gordon and you were just discussing before we |
| 1:52.5 | went on the air, President Trump has made clear in his national security strategy that China is the |
| 1:58.5 | number one concern and that he's going to address how to deal with |
| 2:03.8 | them and in the sense contain them through all elements of national power, economic, military, |
| 2:09.4 | diplomatic information. |
| 2:11.7 | And so in that regard, I think what you see from President Trump is, you know, he's reluctant |
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