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S8 Ep346: SEGMENT 10: GAZA DIPLOMACY AND INVITATIONS TO ADVERSARIES Guest: Mary Kissel Kissel analyzes the peculiar diplomatic landscape surrounding Gaza negotiations, including controversial outreach to bad actors like Putin. Discussion questions the wisdom of eng

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🗓️ 21 January 2026

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SEGMENT 10: GAZA DIPLOMACY AND INVITATIONS TO ADVERSARIES Guest: Mary Kissel Kissel analyzes the peculiar diplomatic landscape surrounding Gaza negotiations, including controversial outreach to bad actors like Putin. Discussion questions the wisdom of engaging hostile powers in Middle East peacemaking, the signals this sends to allies, and how the new administration might reshape these diplomatic approaches going forward.

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I'm John Batchew with Mary Kistel, the executive vice president of Stevens, Incorporated, former senior advisor to the Secretary of State.

1:01.5

Gaza burning the headlines for months, for a year.

1:04.0

Now you can't find it.

1:11.0

The facts are there's a Board of Peace, and the President is nominating members of the Board of Peace.

1:20.0

And there's controversy immediately because one of the names is Vladimir Putin nominated for the Board of Peace, along with representatives from the United States. And I believe the foreign secretary of Turkey, who's the former head of MIT, that state security.

1:26.1

So it's a mixed group of not necessarily friendly voices for the United States.

1:31.8

To accomplish what, Mary?

1:33.1

Because this looks like good State Department thinking.

1:37.1

Well, some of the names on the list like Russia are puzzling to say the least.

1:43.6

Others that are getting criticized, such as the invitation to Belarus, make a little bit more

1:47.8

sense if you think a sec about it, namely that it looks like an attempt, as in the first term,

1:53.7

to try to pull Belarus away from Russia to give it some independence to, you know, to peel

2:00.5

it away. And that would be a good thing.

2:04.1

You know, the Board of Peace has a noble mission. The question is, are you giving it,

2:10.3

equipping it with the tools that it needs to succeed, namely really ridding Gaza of Hamas

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