S8 Ep322: Lessons from the Superpower's Economic Resurgence. Guest: GREGORY COPLEY. The 21st century reveals that nations prioritizing energy security and enforced borders tend to succeed. President Trump's focus on manufacturing and cheap energy has bolstered the
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 16 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my colleague and friend Gregory Copley. Defense and Foreign Affairs is his publication, |
| 0:21.9 | but now and again Gregory publishes. And some years ago, he published a book Sovereignty in the 21st Century |
| 0:27.4 | and the crisis for identity, cultures, nation, states, and civilizations. When Gregory and I first talked |
| 0:33.2 | about this, Russia wasn't on the march towards the Donbass. People's Republic of China wasn't |
| 0:39.5 | boasting about how it's leaped ahead of the U.S. in terms of AI, quantum, the moon rays. |
| 0:46.5 | And the European Union looked to be well-to-do and in charge of itself. None of those things |
| 0:52.9 | now apply. |
| 0:55.5 | London has left the EU, |
| 0:58.1 | and France might as well have, |
| 1:00.6 | given the Macron's statements these last days. |
| 1:04.3 | And the United States is in turmoil, |
| 1:07.7 | is the polite term, political turmoil, |
| 1:10.7 | industrial turmoil, certainly in terms of its borders until recently. |
| 1:15.0 | So what have we learned? What lessons have we learned so far in the 21st century about the search for sovereignty and identity? |
| 1:25.5 | Is there self-awareness? I take it, Gregory, your answer of the four possible empires, |
| 1:32.0 | Russia, China, the U.S., and the EU, |
| 1:36.2 | that they're all aware they're in crisis and defensive according, |
| 1:39.4 | except perhaps, the American. |
| 1:42.0 | Do I say that correctly? |
| 1:44.4 | I believe so. I think President Trump now feels that he is taking America on the march again |
| 1:51.4 | to recovery. And you could argue that he has had enough successes over his first year in office, |
| 1:58.1 | which is still not quite there, his first year in office, that he has |
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