S8 Ep318: China's "Hollow Power" in Iran and Venezuela. Guests: GORDON CHANG and CHARLES BURTON. China's influence appears limited as it fails to substantively support struggling allies like Venezuela's Maduro or the Iranian regime. While China remains a major purc
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 15 January 2026
⏱️ 6 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my good colleagues, Gordon Chang and Charles Burton, commenting on |
| 0:23.3 | the People's Republic of China's Overture to Canada, come join with us, even though you're |
| 0:31.2 | attached intimately to the United States and have been through your history and you share a |
| 0:35.5 | continent and you have the best of borders |
| 0:38.1 | and you smile at each other all the time and play hockey together, come join us. |
| 0:43.9 | But, gentlemen, I ask puzzlingly, the People's Republic of China has been spending money |
| 0:50.8 | lavishly for many years and boasting about it, to make friends around the |
| 0:55.1 | world, especially in adversary camps to the United States. I name Tehran, I name Caracas, |
| 1:02.2 | I name Havana. That's enough, but it's a beginning. And where are they these days with |
| 1:08.9 | the turmoil in Tehran and them said to be thousands casualties, |
| 1:15.3 | body bags all over the floor of gymnasiums as family search for their loved ones. |
| 1:19.8 | And in Caracas, we have a momentary pause between removing the brutes, but there's a huge |
| 1:26.9 | piece out of London today about the |
| 1:29.3 | torture chamber that's on the hill in Caracas. And 800 people disappeared. We're not looking at |
| 1:35.1 | angels left behind in Marifloris, Havana that's self-evident. So I come to both of you. Where is China? |
| 1:43.2 | And what kind of foreign policy is this, that they run away from their investment |
| 1:47.4 | and their collegial relationship to brutes? |
| 1:52.5 | Charles, do you have a comment on this? |
| 1:55.4 | Well, I mean, I think certainly China has been very important to both Iran and Venezuela, |
| 2:03.4 | buying Iranian oil in large quantities to sustain that regime. |
| 2:07.3 | And with regard to Venezuela, massive financial supports and purchase of 80% of Venezuela's |
| 2:15.1 | oil output, even though it's only about 4% of what China imports. |
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