This is John Batchel, a conversation with Bud Weinstein in Texas about energy demands for the future.

The electricity especially is going to need all the energy we can find.

Texas, however, is well ahead.

They're building not only these gigantic tech centers that eat up electricity.

They've got the electricity to be eaten up. Where? Well, they have fossil fuels,

yes, but they have wind. They have solar. Here, Bud explains. He's taught me this over the years.

You don't think of Texas as wind and solar. You think of it well. They just, you know,

they eat gasoline. Nope. Here's Bud,

much more of this about energy demands for the 21st century. Lots and lots of demand.

Well, part of the success story in Texas, although it's not widely known, you're correct,

and we have become number one in wind, and we're number one in solar.

Nobody is building wind farms in Texas now, but we see a lot of solar construction continuing,

even though the tax advantages, the federal tax credits are going away. The other thing we have in

Texas that helps us, in addition to lots of oil and gas, is lots of sunshine,

particularly in the western part of the state. And that's one of the reasons that we're seeing

so much investment in these server farms and the technology of solar and batteries to make sure

that power is available for these data centers.

So, yeah, we're in pretty good shape here in Texas, and I think we'll be able to meet future

demands.

But the fossil fuel business isn't going away, but it's taught me this over years.