S8 Ep294: THE CRISIS OF THE THIRD CENTURY AND AMERICAN PARALLELS Colleagues Gaius and Germanicus, Friends of History Debating Society, Londinium, 92 AD. Gaius and Germanicus explore Rome's "Crisis of the Third Century," where military coups and a fractured empire n
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THE CRISIS OF THE THIRD CENTURY AND AMERICAN PARALLELS Colleagues Gaius and Germanicus, Friends of History Debating Society, Londinium, 92 AD. Gaius and Germanicus explore Rome's "Crisis of the Third Century," where military coups and a fractured empire nearly caused total collapse. Germanicus draws parallels to the currently divided US elite and constitutional order, suggesting America might eventually require a "Tetrarchy"—a split management system—to survive its polarization. After debating historical alternatives like the US remaining a Britishdominion, they end with optimism. Citing Rome's miraculous recovery and the rise of Constantinople, they speculate America may eventually build a new, perhaps "space-based," fortress to ensure its longevity. NUMBER 3
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Friendsfisture Debating Society. I'm Gaius. |
| 0:08.0 | Dramaticus is here. The Centurians are here. They're in their second cup of wine. |
| 0:12.0 | And I told them we were going to speak of Aurelian. Who's Aurelian? He's an emperor who took control of the vicissitudes of the third century, |
| 0:21.6 | 150, 170 years from now. |
| 0:25.6 | He was a general, a successful general, |
| 0:28.6 | and he worked for an assassinated emperor. |
| 0:31.6 | There were a series of assassinated emperors here, all from the barracks, |
| 0:36.6 | and the contest in the future, gentlemen, |
| 0:41.6 | was who gets to name the emperor? Is it the army or the Senate? Those were the two powers of |
| 0:47.7 | the institution in the third century of the Roman Empire. I do not believe the Americans have |
| 0:53.2 | reached this point, but they can, and they |
| 0:55.7 | might, and they've been there before. Certainly, the rush to Ulysses Grant in 68 and again in 72, |
| 1:03.6 | despite his inability to supervise the reconstruction period, was a rush to the military. and the choice of Mr. Eisenhower in 52 to |
| 1:16.3 | answer the Democratic FDR machine, the social welfare state. That was a rush to the military to take |
| 1:23.2 | charge of America, fight the Cold War. We can do that again, but we're not going to speak of |
| 1:30.2 | America. We're going to speak of what happened in the third century. Is there an adequate |
| 1:35.3 | explanation, Germanicus, for how many bad generals turned into bad emperors and then dead ones |
| 1:42.5 | in the third century? What was the ripple in the empire? |
| 1:47.4 | The empire had been slowly unraveling below the surface after the death of Marcus Aurelius, |
| 1:56.0 | and when a semi-stable dynasty, that which is called the Severin, was founded by Septimius Severeus. |
| 2:05.4 | The things seemed to get back on course, but the real problem was that Severeus |
| 2:12.8 | maintained his authority by buying off the army, And they kept demanding more and more money that |
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