S8 Ep293: DOMESTIC MELODRAMA AND THE FOG OF RHETORIC Colleagues Gaius and Germanicus, Friends of History Debating Society, Londinium, 92 AD. Turning to domestic matters, the speakers discuss a controversy in Minnesota involving an ICE-related death, describing the
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| 0:00.0 | It the year is early 92 AD. |
| 0:07.0 | The mission to set the table, the mission is our emperor. |
| 0:12.0 | He's the last of his brood, the Flavians, and after him comes an assassin, Irva, who is an elderly figure in the Senate, |
| 0:23.2 | and after his assassination, early death, who knows? |
| 0:28.3 | It comes a couple of successes for the second century, |
| 0:33.0 | and then we will come to the third century, and we'll speak to that because it was a bad patch, |
| 0:46.3 | and history doesn't repeat itself it rhymes so we're aware that we could go through a bad pat and still be the successful american empire right now we have a domestic situation that is |
| 0:53.3 | fog of rhetoric and there's nothing to be gained other than to follow it as best we can. |
| 1:01.3 | It's in the state of Minnesota. |
| 1:04.5 | And Minnesota was where you found agreement, liberal agreement for many decades. |
| 1:13.6 | You will recall that Ronald Reagan won a big victory over Hubert Humphrey one time. |
| 1:18.6 | Hubert Humphrey? No, it was... I don't remember who he went. |
| 1:23.6 | Oh, Wal-Dumptial. Humphrey came from Minnesota. |
| 1:28.3 | Germanicus, that just sort of popped out. |
| 1:30.3 | I've forgotten that over Walter Mondale. |
| 1:33.3 | And I think Ronald Reagan took all this, every state but Minnesota. |
| 1:37.3 | I'm remembering this incompletely. |
| 1:39.3 | That's right. |
| 1:40.3 | In 84, that is the outcome. |
| 1:43.3 | And Hubert Humphrey, by the way, was vice president for time with Lyndon Johnson. |
| 1:50.4 | And Johnson abused him badly. |
| 1:54.8 | Yes. |
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