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S8 Ep291: AI VALLEY: THE TRILLION DOLLAR RACE TO CASH IN Colleague Gary Rivlin. Gary Rivlin chronicles the personalities driving the AI revolution, including Reid Hoffman and Mustafa Suleyman. He explores the history of "AI winters," the rise of neural networks, an

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 9 January 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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AI VALLEY: THE TRILLION DOLLAR RACE TO CASH IN Colleague Gary Rivlin. Gary Rivlin chronicles the personalities driving the AI revolution, including Reid Hoffman and Mustafa Suleyman. He explores the history of "AI winters," the rise of neural networks, and the corporate battle between Google and Microsoft. The narrative covers the "Doomer" safety debates and Sam Altman's dramatic firing. NUMBER 9
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.4

Here's John Batchelor.

0:10.2

I welcome Gary Rivlin, the journalist and our guide to the AI Valley,

0:17.4

Artificial Intelligence Valley, one Silicon Valley, now Aon Valley.

0:22.2

Microsoft, Google, the big guys, and the trillion-dollar pace race to cash in on artificial

0:30.8

intelligence.

0:31.7

This is AI, and Gary does us the favor of demthologizing it by concentrating on the personalities.

0:39.0

Always the same, no matter the invention or wealth, always the same.

0:44.5

And the origins of AI, which are in the 20th century, but really everything that's important that we're hearing about now has happened within years. Gary, congratulations.

0:57.0

This is a very helpful book to understand all the chatter that's going on about AI. I begin with

1:03.3

a man whose personality is in all directions in your book. Read Hoffman. He is a polymath. At the same time, he charms people. What's the gift

1:14.9

that he has? Who is he? And what do we need to know about him, Gary? Good evening to you.

1:19.4

All right. Great to be on. So, you know, I mean, Reed Hoffman, he's been called the best

1:24.7

connected person in Silicon Valley. He just has this open personality.

1:29.2

He's just endlessly curious. What's remarkable at Silicon Valley is the remarkable individuals

1:35.9

in Silicon Valley, they just, a quest for learning. They always want to learn. And Hoffman really

1:41.9

embodies that. And for, you know, this book, he's a co-founder

1:45.1

of LinkedIn. That's what he's best known for. He was among the first investors in Facebook,

1:52.4

Airbnb. And so he's a venture capitalist these days. So he's really known as a founder and

1:58.8

an investor, but also just kind of a thought leader and writing a book

2:04.3

about AI. So since the mid-2010s, you know, he's been investing in AI. He was one of the original

2:12.3

investors in Open AI, which gave us chat cheap E.T. He started investing in autonomous vehicles in

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