S8 Ep268: THE DANGEROUS NOVEL AND RED GUARD TORTURE Colleague Joseph Torigian. Torigian deepens the analysis of the "dangerous" novel Liu Zhidan, which Mao claimed was a counter-revolutionary plot indicative of "revisionism." This fear of losing revolutionary zeal,
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🗓️ 2 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor. |
| 0:10.0 | Continuing with Joseph Tarigian, the book, The Party's Interest Come First. This is a biography of Xi Zhong, |
| 0:20.0 | father of Xi Jinping. The reason we begin now with a novel is because it is the |
| 0:29.1 | most dangerous novel that ever came into the Shi family. You will recall we left father and son |
| 0:37.0 | in their underwear in a hot apartment smoking cigarettes. |
| 0:41.6 | The reason they're at that point in their lives reunion all the time is because of the disruption of the previous decade. |
| 0:51.5 | Xi Zhongshun was a very powerful early member of the party, joining in 26, went through the battles of the 30s and 40s. |
| 1:02.6 | And then, Joseph, wonderful to continue the story. |
| 1:07.5 | There are mysteries here, but one mystery we must deal with right away is why |
| 1:12.4 | the novel, Leo Gidon, it's a novel of a man's life, a man who was principal in promoting |
| 1:20.4 | Xi Zheng's career in their provinces. Why it matters is because the book is regarded as counter-revolutionary, |
| 1:34.3 | rightist deviation. And the fact that our hero, Xi Zhong Chun, permits it to be published |
| 1:42.1 | is the reason for his fall and breaking and torture and |
| 1:47.3 | brutality and not seeing his family for, what is it, seven or eight years. What is in that novel? |
| 1:53.8 | It's what, what makes it the ruin of their family's life? Good evening to you. John, thank you so much for having me. So it is |
| 2:05.0 | quite interesting, right, that someone would be purged and suffer so much because of their |
| 2:10.1 | support of a novel. And it's a complicated story. It's one that begins in the northwest of China. |
| 2:18.6 | Your listeners may have heard of the Long March. |
| 2:20.8 | That's when Mao Zedong and the Central Committee fled all the way across the country, |
| 2:25.8 | and they landed in the northwest where they found another base area. |
| 2:29.1 | And that base area had been created by a man named Leo Jordan. |
| 2:32.8 | That was the first great mentor of Xi Zhongshun, the father of Xi Jinping. |
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