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S8 Ep204: PREVIEW: Bob Zimmerman questions Amazon's perplexing launch strategy for its LEO constellation, asking why the company is utilizing more costly, non-reusable launch providers like ULA and Blue Origin instead of the more cost-effective SpaceX reusable boos

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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PREVIEW: Bob Zimmerman questions Amazon's perplexing launch strategy for its LEO constellation, asking why the company is utilizing more costly, non-reusable launch providers like ULA and Blue Origin instead of the more cost-effective SpaceX reusable boosters. He speculates that historical contracts or potential personal conflicts between billionaires may explain the decision.
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0:00.0

This is John Batchel, a conversation with Bob Zimmerman about a mystery. Why is Amazon to launch

0:08.0

its Leo constellation for communications similar to Starlink, for example? Why is Amazon using

0:15.1

the expensive throwaway booster company, ULA, and even its own blue origin.

0:22.1

Why are they doing that when SpaceX is a cheaper model?

0:25.8

And their own stockholders say, what are you doing?

0:28.8

Why are you giving business to people who don't have a reusable booster?

0:34.6

The answer is mysterious, but Bob lays it out that the contracts were done

0:39.0

before SpaceX was so prominent. And perhaps out of spite or some kind of insult between billionaires,

0:48.9

after SpaceX said, hey, and I think there was a lawsuit,

0:55.9

Amazon gave them three satellites.

0:57.8

Now, SpaceX has launched thousands

0:59.5

and could launch the Leo constellation as well.

1:02.9

If the object is Leo, what do you care what the booster is?

1:06.6

Bezos, Mr. Bezos.

1:08.4

It's odd.

1:09.2

Here's Bob to tell us what we know so far, and the rest of speculation

1:14.7

as to why they didn't use SpaceX entirely. And why those other companies think Ariana 6 launching,

1:22.3

ULA launching, Blue Origin launching, think that they can compete with a reusable booster.

1:29.9

Here's Bob.

1:31.2

More tonight.

1:33.1

The Trump administration's trade policy strategy and its overall approach to dealing with China for the time being,

1:40.6

because these rare earth's magnets are vital for an incredibly wide variety of not only

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