S8 Ep197: Professor Jonathan Healey details King Charles I's failed 1642 attempt to impeach and arrest five MPs, a move driven by Queen Henrietta Maria calling him a "poltroon." This "cinematic" blunder, betrayed by Lady Carlisle, unified Parliament against the Kin
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🗓️ 16 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchew with Professor Jonathan Healy. His first book is The Blazing World, |
| 0:10.0 | which was a stunning achievement for me because I didn't know any of this. And now I've had a |
| 0:15.3 | very good 20th century education. I read a lot of history in university, and I've read a lot since. |
| 0:23.7 | Jonathan's book introduces you to a world that we come from. The 17th century, you remember your |
| 0:30.4 | date, 1607. That's Jamestown. 1619. That's the Pilgrims. All of this material is watching England, Great Britain, |
| 0:41.2 | in civil war, or building towards civil war in the 17th century, when power would pass from |
| 0:46.8 | the king to the parliament. Constitutional monarchy, we call it today. That would be the model |
| 0:52.7 | for the founders in the 18th century, which is why all this |
| 0:56.5 | backstory is so helpful to understand our institutions. We come now to not an institution, but the |
| 1:04.9 | question of health of the republic or health of the empire or health of the kingdom, the plague. |
| 1:11.4 | It returns in the 17th century, never more worrisome than in 1660s. |
| 1:17.4 | But it strikes that winter in only London, Jonathan, or was it throughout the land? |
| 1:24.7 | Well, at this point, the plague tended to hit city by city. |
| 1:29.5 | When the Black Death first arrived in England in the 14th century, it just swept through the country very, very quickly. |
| 1:35.5 | But now, ever since that, it sort of pops up in one place and then disappears and then go somewhere else. |
| 1:41.8 | So it was in other places a little bit, but the main centre at this point was London and |
| 1:45.7 | Westminster. |
| 1:46.2 | And that summer in particular, you know, the summer of 1641 had been very, very bad. |
| 1:53.4 | Plague got a lot, had been, you know, killing quite a lot of people. |
| 1:56.8 | By the wintertime, because of the particular kind of seasonality of plague, it was starting to die out. |
| 2:03.3 | But yeah, it had been a sickly year. |
| 2:05.7 | The reason the plague is important here is because members of the House of Lords and those who could afford it in Commons have fled the city and are a call to return to Parliament. |
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