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S8 Ep197: Ambassador Hussein Haqqani and Bill Roggio discuss global terror outbreaks, including ISIS-linked attacks in Australia and Afghanistan. Haqqani argues the West prematurely declared victory, ignoring radical ideologies. He notes Pakistan's internal power s

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Ambassador Hussein Haqqani and Bill Roggio discuss global terror outbreaks, including ISIS-linked attacks in Australia and Afghanistan. Haqqani argues the West prematurely declared victory, ignoring radical ideologies. He notes Pakistan's internal power struggles and failure to track jihadists, warning the region remains a launchpad for international terrorism.
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.2

This is CBSI on the world.

0:14.6

I'm John Batchelor.

0:15.9

Terror, terror, terror on several continents.

0:18.7

I welcome my colleagues, Ambassador Hussain O'Connor, former ambassador from Pakistan to the United States,

0:25.6

now a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, and Bill Rajo, a senior fellow at the Foundation for

0:30.5

Defense of Democracy, for more than two decades, two and a half decades, on the Long War Journal

0:35.4

following the terror story that links very little

0:39.3

other than unacceptable violence suddenly in civilian settings or over vast regions of vulnerable

0:47.6

human beings. We have Australia and the attack by what we're told to be ISIS-linked shooters.

0:55.3

We have Afghanistan, and what we're told is now a general understanding

1:00.4

that there are Afghans, terror-linked Afghans, in the U.S.

1:05.3

that came in in the evacuation withdrawal, abandonment of Afghanistan in 2021.

1:12.5

We have a significant change in the leadership in Pakistan having to do with a general,

1:18.9

a former powerful general who is associated with the events of these last years

1:23.6

from the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, now jailed by the all-powerful chief of staff of Pakistan.

1:31.4

And we have a shooting in Providence, Rhode Island, against the elite Brown University students,

1:37.7

but no solution to my knowledge.

1:39.6

All of this is fog of war.

1:41.2

There are no facts that you can nail down.

1:43.7

The story moves very quickly.

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