S8 Ep176: Ukraine Negotiations Hit a Cul-de-Sac Amidst Infiltration Tactics: Colleagues John Hardie and Bill Roggio report that peace talks regarding Ukraine are currently at a standstill, with the U.S. and Ukraine at odds over Russia's demands for territory in the
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🗓️ 9 December 2025
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- Ukraine Negotiations Hit a Cul-de-Sac Amidst Infiltration Tactics: Colleagues John Hardie and Bill Roggio report that peace talks regarding Ukraine are currently at a standstill, with the U.S. and Ukraine at odds over Russia's demands for territory in the Donbas versus Ukraine's need for meaningful security guarantees; while the U.S. has pressured Ukraine to concede territory, the security assurances offered are viewed skeptically by Kyiv, and Russia refuses to accept any Western military presence in Ukraine, while on the battlefield Russia employs infiltration tactics using small groups, sometimes single soldiers, to penetrate deep into Ukrainian positions.
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI on the world. |
| 0:07.0 | Bill Rajo, Foundation for Defensive Democracy, and John Hardy of the FTT joined to comment on what we know so far |
| 0:16.0 | about the several ways conversation about peace in Ukraine. |
| 0:22.7 | The headline from London right now, |
| 0:24.9 | no deal with Trump on seating territory, says Zelensky. |
| 0:28.9 | Mr. Zelensky is in London at 10 Downing Street to meet with |
| 0:33.0 | the Chancellor of Germany, Mr. Merritt, the President of France, Mr. McCrone, and the Prime Minister of Britain, |
| 0:39.8 | Kirstarmer, and the headline, U.S. continues to insist Ukraine give up Donbass, for example. |
| 0:47.4 | John, I come to you because we don't know what's behind these headlines. We do know that the three |
| 0:52.5 | major principles of NATO are meeting with Mr. Zelensky. |
| 0:56.4 | What can you tell us about the situation in Ukraine right now that either supports or undermines |
| 1:04.5 | the efforts of NATO to support Mr. Zelensky through the winter? Good evening to you, John. |
| 1:10.1 | Hi, John. Hey, Bill. Thanks for having me |
| 1:11.9 | back on the show. So I think as readers may know, as you listeners may know, after the meeting |
| 1:19.1 | in the Kremlin between Whitkoff Kushner and Putin and his other officials, the U.S. |
| 1:26.2 | and Ukrainian sides basically got together for several |
| 1:31.0 | days of talks in Miami to continue with those discussions. |
| 1:35.3 | It sounds like the key issues under discussion remain in the territory, namely Putin's |
| 1:42.1 | demand that Ukrainian forces withdraw from the rest of the Dombas in eastern Ukraine |
| 1:45.6 | and security guarantees. Now, the United States State Department put out a readout suggesting there |
| 1:53.2 | have been some movement toward agreement on the issue of security guarantees, but it sounds like |
| 2:00.2 | actually there's still some work to be |
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