S8 Ep153: US Designates Muslim Brotherhood Branches and Ideological Threat — John Batchelor, Bill Roggio, Edmund Fitton Brown — Fitton Brown describes the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan) as a secretive, transnational organization with deliberately decentralized hierarc

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US Designates Muslim Brotherhood Branches and Ideological Threat — John Batchelor, Bill Roggio, Edmund Fitton-Brown — Fitton-Brown describes the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan) as a secretive, transnational organization with deliberately decentralized hierarchical structure designed to obscure leadership and maintain operational security. Fitton-Brown articulates the organization's long-term strategic objective: establishment of a global Islamic caliphatestructure superseding nation-states. Batchelor reports that the US formally designated violent Muslim Brotherhoodaffiliates operating in Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt as terrorist organizations. Roggio notes conspicuously that Turkishand Qatari Muslim Brotherhood branches were omitted from designation, likely because those nations are viewed as strategically important US policy facilitators requiring diplomatic accommodation.
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0:00.0	This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchel Bill Rajah, my senior fellow at the FD is also my co-host,
0:09.1	and we welcome Bill's colleague, the senior fellow Edmund Fitton Brown of the FD,
0:14.4	former ambassador from the United Kingdom to Yemen, and a member of the United Nations monitoring team throughout the region of troubles.
0:22.7	We begin, however, with a conversation about the Muslim Brotherhood called the Iqan in local
0:28.8	terms, because they're not the front of the news, but they are over the years a driving ideology,
0:36.4	a driving ceremony for many of the jihadists, if not now, in their
0:43.5	beginnings.
0:45.0	Edmund, a very good evening to you.
0:46.4	The last I checked it, major figures of the Muslim brothers were in exile in Turkey.
0:51.9	Perhaps they've moved on, but they evidence a great deal of influence
0:56.4	about what's going on in all the states that they were either driven out of or back investing.
1:02.1	What do we need to know about the Muslim brothers and their ambitions here in the 21st century
1:06.7	after all the bloodletting that's going on these years. Good evening to you. Good evening. It's great
1:12.6	to see you, John, and great to be back with you. Yes, the Muslim Brotherhood. It's sort of the
1:17.4	subject of the moment because of the executive order that President Trump issued a week ago.
1:25.2	And, of course, we'll now see how that plays out. And I do want to highlight that
1:30.2	the Foundation for Defense of Democracies has been very much involved in providing relevant
1:35.1	advice and I think deserves quite a lot of credit for shaping the debate on this. You were talking
1:41.5	about where they were based. Yeah, interesting about that. Of course,
1:46.0	it's a very secretive organisation. This is part of the problem. The Muslim Brotherhood doesn't
1:51.1	sort of present itself as a very visible target to address. So the guide of the Brotherhood is
1:59.9	in Egyptian detention. The acting leader, two years ago,
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