S8 Ep1131: Gregory Copley discusses the inevitability of Ukraine's path to NATO, a move he views as a provocation to Russia. He argues the war preserves President Zelensky's power without a democratic mandate. However, he acknowledges Ukraine's technological ingenui
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 15 July 2026
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| 0:53.2 | Gregory Copley, Defense and Foreign Affairs is here with me. |
| 0:55.9 | We're going to Ukraine. In these last hours, it is possible to make this assumption that something |
| 1:03.3 | happened at the NATO meeting in Ankara, and all of a sudden, there is reinforcement on the way. |
| 1:09.4 | For example, that the U.S. has offered the Patriot missile system to be manufactured in Ukraine with the IP transfers. |
| 1:16.6 | Also, Germany is offering the money for the basis for 50,000 very sophisticated drones, |
| 1:23.5 | capable of breaching anyone's defensive perimeter, including Russia's. In addition, there's |
| 1:29.6 | enormous amount of money coming into Ukraine to pay for increase in salaries of the field army, |
| 1:37.8 | and also to break the field army into pieces of drone operators versus frontline troops, |
| 1:43.6 | something that's been needed for years. It appears that |
| 1:47.3 | NATO has made a decision, or am I jumping to a conclusion, Gregory? Well, NATO has sort of made a |
| 1:55.1 | conclusion, but it's not one which I think would withstand a vote by all NATO members, which is |
| 2:00.8 | critical to adding a new membership. |
| 2:03.3 | The US and others have talked about the inevitable path to NATO membership for Ukraine, |
| 2:10.6 | which is something that actually is picking up on the Joe Biden provocation to Russia, which caused the start of the Russia-Iraq, |
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