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S8 Ep1127: Samuel Ben-Ur — Israel controls 70% of Gaza, creating a buffer zone while Hamas remains on the coast; 98% of the population resides on the Hamas-controlled side, where the group exploits humanitarian aid for revenue, and the Board of Peace proposes a "pil

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 14 July 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Samuel Ben-UrIsrael controls 70% of Gaza, creating a buffer zone while Hamas remains on the coast; 98% of the population resides on the Hamas-controlled side, where the group exploits humanitarian aid for revenue, and the Board of Peace proposes a "pilot zone" in Tel Sultan for non-Hamas civilians. (1)
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0:51.4

All these are important road signs on the way through the war that was launched in 23.

0:58.6

However, that war is not ended.

1:00.9

I understand we have a war in the Middle East with regard Iran, and the Strait of Hormuzza is shut as part of that war.

1:07.4

We have a war in Europe with Ukraine and Russia and NATO's involved to the point that

1:12.6

NATO is now through its membership, Germany I'm thinking of, pledging 50,000 drones to be

1:19.5

delivered into the hands of the Ukrainian offensive forces that are routinely striking deep into

1:25.5

Russia and causing disruption in Russian economy profoundly

1:30.5

with the destruction of refineries. However, back to Gaza, Hamas, and the war of 23, it is not

1:39.2

over. So I welcome Samuel Ben-Rove, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies to update us on where Gaza is, where Hamas is, and what are the plans.

1:49.5

Sam, a very good day to you.

1:50.9

Thank you for joining.

1:51.9

First thing, Gaza, it is now permanently a ruin unless somebody intervenes.

1:59.2

What does it look like?

2:00.4

Where are the Israelis? Where is the

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