S8 Ep1127: Mark Simon and Gordon Chang — China released Pastor Ezra Jin Mingri following a request from Donald Trump, showing Xi Jinping can make concessions without losing face; however, billionaire publisher Jimmy Lai remains imprisoned for political crimes, viewe
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 14 July 2026
⏱️ 10 minutes
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Mark Simon and Gordon Chang — China released Pastor Ezra Jin Mingri following a request from Donald Trump, showing Xi Jinping can make concessions without losing face; however, billionaire publisher Jimmy Lai remains imprisoned for political crimes, viewed by the Chinese government as a significant threat and a "one-man wrecking crew." (4)
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| 0:55.9 | the now closed Apple Daily to comment on Jimmy Lai in Chinese incarceration for nothing, for no |
| 1:03.7 | crimes whatsoever, a billionaire publisher and a man who has been through several careers in China |
| 1:10.2 | by his own bootstraps, watching him |
| 1:13.6 | suffer in jail and what is to be done. I read a report most recently in the Washington |
| 1:19.1 | examiner. China released Pastor Ezra Jin Mingwe from prison, allowing the prominent |
| 1:26.9 | underground church leader to return to the United |
| 1:29.1 | States following President Donald Trump's meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping. |
| 1:35.2 | Mark, I immediately, having limited knowledge about all these matters in the Chinese Communist Party, |
| 1:42.4 | puzzle. Why Pastor Jin is released, he represents the |
| 1:46.9 | underground church, which I believe the Chinese Communist Party considers a threat, why he's |
| 1:52.5 | released after Mr. Trump requested, and why Jimmy is not. There are, by estimates that I've |
| 1:59.6 | heard, up to 100 million Christians in China, there |
| 2:02.5 | maybe 100 journalists that are at risk. |
| 2:05.3 | What's the difference between them? |
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