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This is a high risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong. I'm John Bachelor, Gordon Chang, at Gordon Chi Chang, my colleague and co-host,

and we're very welcoming to Bill Gertz, National Security Correspondent for the Washington Times,

author most recently of Deceiving the Sky, Inside Communist China's Drive for Global Supremacy.

I go to the new issue of Foreign Affairs magazine, a distinguished publication,

and to an article about nuclear weapons published in this issue by Rose Gortmiller.

The title of the piece is the strange defeat of nuclear deterrence, subhead,

and the coming crisis and strategic stability.

Rose is identified properly as the William J. Perry Lecturer

at the Center for International Security and Cooperation.

She's also a research at the Hoover Institution. She served from 2016 to 2019 as Deputy Secretary

General of NATO, author most recently of Security Through Cooperation, Space, Nuclear Weapons,

and U.S.-Russia relations after the Cold War. The paragraph that is

pertinent to our conversation about nuclear weapons, non-strategic nuclear weapons, sometimes called

tactical nukes, sometimes called battlefield nukes, is this paragraph. Several, many paragraphs

into the article. It's not the heat of the article.

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