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S8 Ep1103: Mary Kissel. Confronting Beijing's Provocations and the Cost of Appeasement. Kissel critiques the U.S. government for pursuing trade deals while China conducts intimidating missile tests in the Pacific. She urges the administration to recognize the severi

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🗓️ 8 July 2026

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Mary Kissel. Confronting Beijing's Provocations and the Cost of Appeasement. Kissel critiques the U.S. government for pursuing trade deals while China conducts intimidating missile tests in the Pacific. She urges the administration to recognize the severity of the threat, strengthen regional alliances, and impose actual consequences for Beijing'sincreasingly hostile behavior to avoid a greater future threat. (6)

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0:54.9

In these last hours, you will see a report that a PRC, PLA Navy, boomer, that's a nuclear

1:04.3

submarine that fires nuclear missiles if it wants to, called a boomer.

1:09.5

From the South China Sea, fired a missile capable of 10,000 kilometers across northern

1:16.1

Luzon, across Palau, across the northern Marianas, across the marshals, toward Fiji

1:23.8

and Australia, somewhere in that zone.

1:33.2

That is an act of provocation. This missile is meant to represent intimidation, and it does. The question is, the timing. Was it a coincidence that was the day

1:39.6

before the NATO meeting? Was it a coincidence that the Prime Minister of Australia was in Fiji signing a

1:47.6

mutual pact with the government in Fiji? Is it a coincidence that that missile flew by, if not over,

1:54.4

Guam, the naval base in the northern Pacific? The administration has been keen on a trade deal with China. What I'm looking

2:03.7

at right now is the fact of China using a provoking moment, perhaps coincidentally with the fact

2:10.2

that RIMPAC is underway in Hawaii, perhaps not. Mary had to read this from your understanding

2:16.1

of the State Department. Do we pretend that it was a coincidence?

2:19.7

Do we pretend that China is not intimidating our allies in the Pacific?

2:27.1

Well, the answer is no.

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