S8 Ep1099: Samuel Ben-Ur discusses the immense difficulty of rebuilding Gaza while Hamas remains in power. He notes Hamas uses reconstruction as a political tool, often obstructing aid efforts to maintain its local authority and influence. (6)
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 7 July 2026
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Samuel Ben-Ur discusses the immense difficulty of rebuilding Gaza while Hamas remains in power. He notes Hamas uses reconstruction as a political tool, often obstructing aid efforts to maintain its local authority and influence. (6)
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my colleague Samuel Ben-Eur Bill Rojo, the Foundation for Defense of Democracy. |
| 0:21.6 | Sam, I want to press you on the Board of Peace. It was a rhetorical, useful ploy at the time |
| 0:30.5 | had to do with the end of the hostages being kept live and all in dead, to my knowledge, deceased at the time. But these many weeks later, |
| 0:40.9 | it's lost in the fray of the Strait of Hormuz, of the Iran war, of the threat in Ukraine, |
| 0:47.5 | of the general political temperament of the U.S., no longer gazing at Gaza if that that's the beginning and end of the day's news. |
| 0:56.5 | However, the Board of Peace, what does it mean for the people of Gaza? |
| 1:02.1 | Last time I saw a glimpse of Gaza, and I've been there many times over the decades. |
| 1:09.0 | I've broadcast from Gaza. |
| 1:12.7 | It's essentially beachfront property on the Mediterranean. And there can be days you could actually stand on the beach and forget |
| 1:18.7 | what's behind you, which is piles of ruined concrete. I can presume there are bodies under that |
| 1:25.7 | concrete somewhere. |
| 1:31.0 | And it remains as a tribute to chaos. |
| 1:34.3 | So who is doing anything for it? |
| 1:37.8 | Who believes them that they're going to get in there with bulldozers? |
| 1:41.2 | Where are they going to put the people when they start reconstruction? |
| 1:46.9 | And I'm going to raise a point that has to be obvious to anybody who's ever done any major tear down and rebuild. |
| 1:48.7 | The place is filled with asbestos and children. |
| 1:52.7 | Is anybody thinking about this or intended to do something about it, Sam? |
| 1:57.5 | And I don't hold you responsible. |
| 1:59.3 | I'm just puzzled about what we're not hearing. |
| 2:02.6 | Yeah, thank you for not holding the responsible. I appreciate that. So I don't know if I would |
| 2:09.0 | describe the Board of Peace as a ploy necessarily. It depends on who you ask. If you ask Donald |
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