I'm John Batchel with my good colleagues, Ernesto Arous and Alejandro Pina Excluza. This is the New World Report.

The tragedy in Caracas continues. The election in Brazil is well launched with the candidates

speaking out and smearing each other as much as possible as I can tell the way Lula de Silva's campaign is

treating Flavio Bolsonaro.

At the same time, there are other elections we must attend to right away.

Alejandro, your book is about the Sao Paulo Forum, which was at one time organized left-of-center

sympathetic to narco-terrorism, now being moved aside in elections. Most recently, Colombia

and Peru, do you see the change in Colombia benefiting not only the people of Colombia,

a man who was no experience whatsoever as a politician, he's a defense lawyer, who has lived in

Berenquia, in Miami, and in Italy. Do you see him

as a bright direction ahead away from the South Power Forum? Thank you. Yes, yes, I do. That's the

definite answer because people must understand that it is not any longer a fight between

left and right because left has been more and more related to drug trafficking and organized crime

since that in the creation of the Sao Paulo Forum in 1990, two terrorist groups

related to drugs were founders of this organization.

I'm talking about two Colombian narco-guerilla groups, the ELN and the FARC.

So they infected the Sao Paulo Forum political members and political parties with this,

with this, let's say, lost or want for drug money, because drug money infects everything.

It poisons

everything. So the

Sao Paulo Forum was infected

by drug trafficking and

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