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S8 Ep1099: Edmund Fitton-Brown. Fitton-Brown describes Houthis as autonomous Iranian proxies testing regional blockades. He notes Oman serves as a critical, unpressured hub for smuggling weapons and illicit goods, enabling Houthis to recover from strikes. (12)

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Edmund Fitton-Brown. Fitton-Brown describes Houthis as autonomous Iranian proxies testing regional blockades. He notes Oman serves as a critical, unpressured hub for smuggling weapons and illicit goods, enabling Houthis to recover from strikes. (12)
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel, Bill Raggio, my colleague and friend from the FD is here as my co-host, we're speaking

0:21.4

with Edmund Fitton Brown, of the day after the funeral of the Ayatollah and what is to be

0:28.5

done. The Strait of Hormuz, open, closed, open close. And then we look at the Houthis and their

0:35.2

possible threat to the Babel Mende Deb, the Red Sea choke point at the

0:40.0

southern end. And where are the Houthis in this equation of Iran and the U.S. and a ceasefire?

0:47.3

Edmund, the Houthis have not been in the news for firing drones and missiles, which was

0:51.8

their commonplace way of getting a headline. And yet they

0:55.8

remain extremely unsolved and a threat to Babam and Deb. Is that a tool that Iran can turn on at

1:02.0

will, or was it just the special conditions of the Israeli conflict? I wouldn't say at will,

1:09.1

John, but equally I think it's not just the special conditions of the

1:12.9

Israeli conflict. I think that it's somewhere between the two. The Houthis are an Iranian proxy,

1:18.0

but they're quite an independent-minded one. They will often do what Iran wants them to do,

1:22.4

but they want it also to be perceptibly in their interests. And their interests and the Iranian interests do

1:29.4

overlap very substantially. They will be delighted with what the Iranians have done about the Babel Mandab,

1:34.7

excuse me, what the Iranians have done about the Strait of Hormuz, because it has, it's given them

1:40.8

more influence. It means that their previous campaign in the Babel Mandep and in the

1:45.3

Red Sea now looks as if it could be repeated and would be even more effective. They can even make

1:51.1

the argument that, you know, oh, come on, it's not worth people even trying to enforce freedom

1:56.4

of navigation through the Red Sea because that's been tried in the Gulf and in the Strait of Hormuz,

2:02.6

and it hasn't worked. So in other words, they will feel that their hand has been strengthened.

2:08.4

Now, they've had another four months to recover from the pounding that they took last year

2:12.4

since the start of the Iran-Israel-US war on the 28th of February. They didn't intervene initially,

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