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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

S7 Ep13: Checkmate

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.57.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2019

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Bob interviews a juror from Jamie’s co-defendant Susan Claycomb’s trial.  We find out why Susan was acquitted, and new information is revealed about Jamie’s trial.

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0:00.0

We have a lot of earwaves for the murder of William Lowe.

0:07.0

He was the castation attendant for your run.

0:17.5

From NBI Studios, this is Truth In Justice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

0:23.5

I'm Bob Ruff.

0:30.0

In the game of chess, every piece on the board has a purpose.

0:49.6

They all have their own individual strengths and weaknesses.

0:53.8

The queen is considered to be the most powerful piece in the game.

0:57.6

She's the most versatile, able to move in any direction, sliding from one end of the board to the other in a single move.

1:04.6

And then there's the pawn.

1:07.6

Don't get me wrong, a pawn can be powerful.

1:11.6

However, their primary purpose is that of a sacrificial lamb.

1:16.6

They can only move one or two spaces at a time, and they can only move forward.

1:21.6

Typically, the pawn is used simply to set up a more important move later in the game.

1:27.6

Each player begins the game with only one queen, but eight pawns.

1:33.1

The reason that you're given so many of these little pieces is because most winning strategies consist of sacrificing most of them along the way.

1:42.1

As long as you can capture the king, the lives of the pawns simply don't matter.

1:48.1

They are collateral damage.

1:53.1

When it comes to the investigation and to build Little's murder, Jamie Snow was the king that the state had its sights set on.

2:01.1

And Susan Claycomb was nothing more than a sacrificial pawn in the eyes of the state's attorney's office.

2:13.1

Texas Ranger James Holland is a legendary interrogator. They call him the serial killer Whisperer.

2:20.1

You can't hide those indications, and that's why yesterday I knew that you did it.

2:23.1

But now, shocking interrogation tapes reveal how the Super Cup really operates.

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