There's some work that's already been done by some outsourced engineers.

And the problem we ran into is they'd kind of gone down a path with a certain set of technologies

that we quickly realized we're not going to be able to scale where we thought the business was going

going to end up going, which if you look over the last almost four years, three and a half years

I've been here, we've grown the business from a revenue perspective like 10x.

So we first had to kind of step back and say, okay, let's really be clear about what the

problem is we're going to go solve going forward. That's kind of where we started was what

are the right technologies that are going to help us, let's assume we're 10, 20 times or 30 times

the size we are. Where are we going to hit problems and where we're going to hit scaling issues? Hi, I'm Ferrell Allen. I'm the CEO and co-founder of Clarivine.

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Prior to his current venture, Verl Allen spent 12 years at Adobe.

During that time, he was raising three kids as a single dad, so you can imagine that

during that time, it took a large part of his focus. Outside of his profession and family, he

loves to ride road bikes, three to four hours a week, but in particular, long distance rides,

to the tune of 200 miles in a single day. He's also a runner, which he finds takes less time to

get a good workout. During his also a runner, which he finds takes less time to get a good workout.

During his time at Adobe, Verl noticed a problem emerging with his exposure to acquisitions.

He saw that the acquisitions were merging at the process level, but were not merging down to the data level.

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